Posts Tagged ‘Say Anything’

One of my most anticipated albums last year was Two Tongue’s sophomore album, aptly titled Two Tongues 2. And boy, was it a huge let down. The first Two Tongues album was great. Not only because it combined lead singers from two of my favorite bands (Saves The Day and Say Anything), but the music was inherently good. But the follow up sounds nothing like its predecessor. It sounds more like recent Say Anything albums, and that should give you an indication of how disappointing this album is.

Two Tongues 2 was pressed as a single LP spread across three colors. Yes you read right, three colors. Equal Vision hid the fact that they pressed a third variant because it was intended to be a tour exclusive, and said tour was abruptly canceled with no reason given. In fact, the label really only advertised one variant and never made mention of the 180 gram black either. But people actually knew the 180 gram black exists because it’s available for sale at some places.

So here are the three colors and pressing info (which is exclusive to this blog); split white/black with purple splatter 180g limited to 500 copies, black 180g limited to 500 copies and white 180g limited to 500 copies. The splatter (which is half white/half black base) was a label/band exclusive via Merchnow, and when it sold out Merchnow started selling black copies. Black is likely a mass retail exclusive though, so if you buy this at your local record store or online anywhere you’ll get black. White is the aforementioned tour exclusive. But since the tour fell through Equal Vision is just sitting on these. They did make same available to a random record store out of Michigan, Revival Records, which now goes by the name Alien Cow Records. When I emailed Equal Vision for the pressing info I was told the white was given to Revival Records, but the store changed their name long ago to Alien Cow Records, which I only discovered via a Google search. This indie record store was given a mere five copies of the white variant, and they sold all five copies on eBay for retail price.

An insert is included along with a download card/code.  Retail price on this is around $20. Something to be aware of with this record is that they were likely not shipped properly somewhere along the way; either from the plant or from distributors. As the copy I was sent that I ordered from a distro had a seam split, and both copies I saw at my local record store had seam splits as well, which is why I didn’t buy a copy from my local store. I would say the distro didn’t pack great, which they didn’t, and they’re notorious for shoddy packaging, but considering my record store had copies with seam splits indicates the problem runs higher up the food chain. It also helps when I told the owner of my store about the seam splits, because the store is usually very good about not putting out damaged copies like that on the sales floor, and he told me “That is how they arrived to us. So we’re kinda stuck with them. Nothing else in that shipment came damaged.”


Say Anything’s latest album, I Don’t Think It Is, is not their best work, but it’s far better than their previous album, Hebrews. This album actually has instrumentation on it, so that immediately gives it a leg up on Hebrews. One of the down sides is that a lot of the songs sound alike, so they all wind up blending together. But other than that I Don’t Think It Is sounds more like the Say Anything their fans have grown to love over the years, but it is still a big enough departure from that …Is A Real Boy sound to turn off many of their fans.

When you buy this record, whether it’s at your local record store, at a show or online, the first thing you’ll notice is the album art. It’s atrocious. And if you thought it looked bad looking at a picture of it in iTunes or a small jpeg online, it’s even worse scaled up to LP format. There is no escaping it. I don’t know what Max Bemis was thinking.

I Don’t Think It Is was pressed as a single LP spread across three variants; opaque sea blue limited to 1,00 copies, opaque light blue limited to 500 copies and transparent caramel limited to 500 copies.

The opaque sea blue was exclusively sold online in the Equal Vision Records web store hosted by MerchNow. When I obtained the pressing info from Equal Vision they also made mention this color is being sold on tour as well. Another interesting note is that they call this color opaque dark blue, despite that the hype sticker on the record and the item description on MerchNow says opaque sea blue.

The opaque light blue is a $hit Topic exclusive color. I obtained that number from Equal Vision. I needed confirmation on that number even though a $hit Topic rep said it was limited to 500 copies, because I don’t trust anything that comes out of $hit Topic’s mouth after all the crap they’ve pulled over the years, and they continue to add new BS to their repertoire. The latest example is refusing to offer refunds or exchanges on records bought online that are damaged during shipping when they ship records in oversized plastic bags with no cardboard or bubble wrap. They use to accept returns/exchanges, but now all of a sudden they don’t. All their BS over the years with records likely stems from them hemorrhaging money on them.

The transparent caramel is a retail exclusive color. So if you buy this anywhere other than Merchnow or $hit Topic you will get this color. Equal Vision call is transparent brown despite the hype sticker saying transparent caramel. If you haven’t guessed it yet, all the variants come with a hype sticker denoting the color of the record, and also advertise the fact they’re part of a “limited pressing” along with the exclusive bonus tracks found on the download card.

All copies come with a download card that yields four exclusive bonus tracks. The bonus tracks are (in order of appearance) “Slip,” “Slit,” “Slick” and “Spit.” These bonus tracks don’t appear on the actual record, they’re digital only. An insert is included as well, which has the lyrics printed on one side and the liner notes on the opposite side.

Prices on this range widely. MerchNow charged $20 before shipping. $hit Topic charges $22.90 before tax and shipping (if applicable). Prices in indie records stores range from $20 to $23, with many online distros charging similar prices. But if you shop around and be patient you can get a great deal on this record. I bought it for $13 shipped taking advantage of coupon codes and already lower prices at one distro. Odds are though that this record will sit around for a while. If it hasn’t sold out by now, three months after release date, it won’t sell out for a long time. I’m also basing this on Hebrews not selling out after two years, and these two albums are on par musically and popularity wise.

To mark the 10th Anniversary of Say Anything’s breakthrough album, …Is A Real Boy, Doghouse Records re-pressed the album yet again, but this time doing a box set containing four 10″ records along with a bonus 7″ of previously unreleased songs. Before the first pressing of this box set even sold out Doghouse put up a completely unnecessary second pressing. However, the first pressing was not without its problems.

The colors Doghouse announced for the first pressing and the mock ups that went along with them turned out to be completely wrong from how the finished product turned out. Doghouse didn’t even acknowledge that the colors were blatantly wrong, even after posting pictures of all the variants on social media. People’s reactions were like hot sauce; some people were slightly upset, some were mildly upset and some were livid while others could care less.

Before delving further into the color debacle, here is the pressing info for the first pressing of the box set. There were 200 copies half & half splatter, with 100 of them being available in test press bundle. Yes, Doghouse pressed 100 tests and sold all of them. The test press bundle cost $130. Noting the price for the test press bundle, you could buy that half & half splatter variant without test pressing for $65. The half & half splatter was supposed to be half white/half green w/ black splatter but came out half yellow/half green w/ green/brown/black splatter.

Next up is a variant limited 300 copies, which was supposed to be purple/white/green tri-color but came out red/white/green instead. There is a variant limited to 500 copies on color in color that was supposed to be purple/white but came out orange/white. Lastly there are 1400 copies on purple, which is the only variant to come out as intended. The purple /1400 variant cost $55 while all the other variants cost either $60 (tri-color & color in color) or $65 (splatter) simply because they were rarer. To date the only variant not to sell out is the purple.

On top of the color mix up, the records were delayed for a few months. Pre-orders went up in December 2014 with a scheduled release date in May 2015. The box sets did not start shipping until July 2015. To make matters worse Doghouse seemed to sparingly ship orders, as quite a few people had to pester Doghouse about actually shipping their order. As if more things couldn’t hit the fan; better duck and cover. When Doghouse finally did start shipping orders they discovered they oversold one of the variants (color in color /500) and offered people the least rare variant (purple /1400) as a replacement.

I never pre-ordered this for multiple reasons. First was the months-long preorder, second was a combo between the prices and how many copies were being pressed, and lastly was the fact Doghouse was shipping orders, as I know from others’ past horror stories they are hit or miss when it comes to fulfilling orders and with customer service. But when I finally ordered a copy of the purple variant in September 2015, almost one year after pre-orders first went live, I was very pleased with how the box set turned out.

The box has a glossy finish and the band’s name/logo is embossed with green foil. There is a hype sticker on the cover (box comes shrink-wrapped) indicating this box set is a “Special 10th Anniversary Box Set.” All the records inside the box come in full color, glossy dust sleeves. It’s minimal color, as only the album title, track names and Doghouse Records logo are printed on the sleeves. A full size (for a 10″ release) booklet is included, which has stories from the era in the words of Max Bemis. It highlights the recording process, where Max was as a person at the time and him reflecting on that time from today’s perspective. My only complaint is that the booklet is very short, it’s only six pages. The bonus 7″ features two songs; “But A Fleeting Illness” on the a-side and an acoustic version of “Belt” on the b-side. Both songs on the 7″ had never been released prior to this release.

As aforementioned, before the first pressing sold out Doghouse announced and put up for pre-order a second pressing. This second pressing went up for sale in early September 2015, which was before I bought my copy from the first pressing. Doghouse ordered the same colors that got screwed up from the first pressing. And they’re still charging more for the rarer variants and still ordering 100 “test pressings.” The pressing info for the second pressing is as follows: 200 copies on half white/half green w/ black splatter (cost $65, $5 more than other variants because rarest. 100 copies available in test press bundle. Test press bundle initially cost $120 but was inexplicably lowered to $100 about a week after pre-orders went up). 300 copies on transparent green w/ white marble ($60) and 400 on transparent yellow w/ “heavy” white splatter ($60).

Doghouse unfortunately still hasn’t learned their lesson with pre-orders, as they expect this second pressing to be ready to ship by November 2015. Seeing as they couldn’t ship the first pressing by the scheduled release date, which was five months away, I foresee the second pressing running into the same problems as the first pressing. Hopefully for anyone who orders a copy from the second pressing, the colors aren’t screwed up this time as well.

Below I’m including photos of the mock-ups Doghouse made and posted in their webstore, with the pictures (posted on Doghouse’s social media) of how each variant turned out next to its respective mock-up. If not obvious enough, these photos are at the end of the gallery. For information and photos of the first pressing of this record, which was pressed as a double LP, check here – Say Anything – …Is A Real Boy 2xLP (1st Press)

Daytrotter keeps churning out overpriced vinyl releases of their sessions, whether it’s trying to con people into subscribing to their service or gouging people who choose to not subscribe. Fake Problems did a Daytrotter Session which saw a vinyl release, which was a split with Cursive. Officially this is a Cursive/Fake Problems split, but I don’t collect or even listen to Cursive, to I count this towards my Fake Problems collection so I lead in with them.

I do not know how many copies were pressed. But in typical Daytrotter fashion this was only pressed on 180 gram black vinyl. This comes in a jacket that has a cardboard/chipboard color and feel inside, while some later Daytrotter release comes with a white backing inside with a slightly glossy finish, which is what most single pocket jackets are like.

Here is the track listing:

Side A (Say Anything/Max Bemis)

  1. Burn A Miracle
  2. Belt
  3. Say Anything
  4. Walk Through Hell


Side B (Matt Pryor)

  1. Polish The Broken Glass
  2. Dear Lover
  3. Hover Near Flame
  4. If I Wear A Disguise.


Since Daytrotter overcharges for this, there is finally an alternative option to buy the Daytrotter vinyl releases, Wolfgang’s Vault ( But they also overcharge a bit, but not nearly as much as Daytrotter themselves. They often run sales, which equate to pretty much half off all Daytrotter releases. Wolfgang’s Vault overcharges; overcharge is putting it mildly, they rape your wallet on shipping charges, charging $9.50 for shipping per order. That shipping rate is flat rate per order though, at least for orders containing only vinyl, so if you order multiple records it works out more in your favor, which is what I did. To add further insult to injury, kicking you while you’re down, rubbing dirt in your face or any other saying you can conjure up, the shipping is for USPS media mail, even though Wolfgang’s Vault misleads you into thinking they are shipping your order via UPS.

For everyone ordering stuff from Wolfgang’s Vault and runs into this shipping BS, I advise calling up your credit card company/bank and trying to get some money back in regards to the blatant shipping overcharge. I went this route after emailing Wolfgang’s Vault complaining about the shipping charges and the fact they purposely mislead you with UPS tracking/shipping notice and getting nothing but utter disdain and contempt. I would’ve been happy if my order actually shipped UPS for $9.50, but it didn’t. It went media mail, which we all know is the cheapest method to ship records, with an actual cost for my order of $3.17. Tack on the mailing supply cost (especially considering they don’t use any cardboard inserts or bubble wrap) and whatever they pay employees to pack order and there is still no way it would cost anywhere close to $9.50

Now I’m not greedy and didn’t expect a full refund, only partial due to the blatant rip off after directly contacting Wolfgang’s Vault (to no avail). But my credit card company, after listening to my case and looking at all the evidence I sent in, refunded my entire order price in full, and I was told they would investigate further into Wolfgang’s Vault for fraud. How much of that investigation story would actually be true, who knows. All I care about was I didn’t get ripped off and stuck it to the man, sort of.

Perma is yet another side project of Say Anything front man Max Bemis. This time it’s with his wife, Sherri Dupree, of Eisley fame. Perma is in the same vein as Two Tongues, Bemis’ other side project, which is with Saves The Day front man Chris Conley.

There were 1,000 copies pressed on mint green vinyl. The mint green has some marbling in it, with hints of white and black. Max’s face is on the a-side with Sherri’s face on the b-side. Two Of A Crime is one of, if not the first release on Bemis’ label, Rory Records.

After a long wait Hot Rod Circuit’s The Underground Is A Dying Breed was released on vinyl. A joint release between Enjoy The Ride Records and Thunderbeard Records, there were four variants for the record which was spread out across the 1,000 total copies pressed. There were 225 copies on orange with black smoke, which was an Enjoy The Ride exclusive, 225 copies on sky blue, which was a Thunderbeard exclusive, 400 copies on gray, which was a Hot Topic exclusive and lastly there was a secret variant limited to 100 copies that was a quad split consisting of orange with black smoke and a darker blue than the sky blue regular variant. The quad split is patterned after a radioactive shield, so going clockwise a ¼ of the record is orange with black smoke, the next ¼ is blue, the next ¼ is orange, the next ¼ is blue.

Enjoy The Ride has been doing these secret variants for their last few releases. They’re the most limited variant and are randomly given out in orders. This time around all outlets selling any of the variants were allotted a percentage of the secret variant pressing ( % out of the 100 copies) and they were shipped in orders in place of the regular variants ordered (orange with black smoke, sky blue or gray). All copies were sealed so odds are people packing up orders did not even know who or what orders were getting the secret variant.

All copies of the record also came packaged with a bonus 7” featuring the acoustic EP that was released a bit after the regular album came out back in 2007. Also include on this bonus 7” is a cover of the Hot Rod Circuit song “At Nature’s Mercy” performed by Max Bemis. The download code included with the record includes the full album and all the songs found on the bonus 7” as well. This release is the only place to get this Max Bemis cover, at least to my knowledge. This bonus 7” is pressed on cola brown and since it came with every copy of the record it’s limited to 1,000 copies. The 7” does not come with any jacket or sleeve, just a plain white paper dust sleeve. The 7” is housed inside the gatefold jacket for the LP. It slides into a pocket cut into one of the panels.

Originally this 7″ was supposed to be a Record Store Day 2013 exclusive, but the records were not ready in time for RSD so the release got pushed till a few weeks after RSD. It was rumored that the release got pushed because Equal Vision Records decided to make the 7″ a tour exclusive release that would be sold the Say Anything and Eisley tour over the summer in 2013, but that was not true. While the record will be sold on the bands’ tour, the release was never intended to be a tour exclusive and was not pushed from RSD because of that.

There were two colors, black limited to 1,000 copies and clear limited to 500 copies. The black copies were sold online and will be sold on the bands’ summer tour while the clear copies are “store exclusive.” By “store exclusive” I’m assuming indie record stores. I’m guessing the clear is the intended RSD exclusive, as that was supposed to be limited to 500 copies with no color mentioned. While the black copies have already started being sold at the time of writing this, the clear copies will apparently be released some time over the summer. Definitely a calculated move so more of the black copies can be sold because impatient people won’t want to wait for the more limited clear copies to pop up for sale at an undetermined and unannounced time. 500 of the black copies will be sold online with the remaining 500 copies on black being sold on tour.

The cover art was done by Sherri DuPree-Bemis. Say Anything contributes a re-recorded acoustic version of “Try To Remember, Forget” that was originally released on the band’s Menorah/Majora EP. Eisley contributes “Lost And Found (acoustic)” which has been performed live by the band for years but has never been officially released in any form until now.